Discussion thread for the testing period.

http://swfchan.com/patreon.shtml

Please avoid new discussion here, take it in http://swfchan.org/7736/ instead.
Please avoid new discussion here, take it in http://swfchan.org/7736/ instead.
Please avoid new discussion here, take it in http://swfchan.org/7736/ instead.

I've finally decided to try and replace the ads on swfchan with patreons. There has been some interest shown for Patreon in the past here on the board and after seeing all of the success other people has had with it I really shouldn't delay this any longer.

Before announcing on the whole site I'll ask here on .org if anyone want to try "beta testing" it? It means backing me just as you normally would but with a bit of extra patience in regards to receiving the rewards - I'd like to figure out a way to automate the rewards if possible but I first need to know how Patreon actually works. Or maybe account creation on eye.swfchan.com simply has to be done manually, I have no idea right now.

As usual I'm approaching this endeavour with scepticism, people haven't been happy to donate in the past but perhaps these are different times? Patreon seems to have struck a chord with people and from what I've seen so far they seem very good to me too. Sites like YouTube, Facebook, Twitter and Reddit all existed in several similar forms before they simply got it "just right" and became de facto for those concepts online. Is Patreon becoming de facto when it comes to donating online?

The milestones I've scribbled down will be reached if 300 people supports the site with 5 bucks each. That is 1.2% of the daily 25k unique visitors that the site sees. It sure would be awesome to have swfchan without ads.

Go ahead and take a look at swfchan's Patreon page linked above (and below). As you can see I've taken a special approach: My Patreon profile is not linked to directly and you don't support swfchan directly either. That way PayPal can still be used since you don't support anything that is NSFW (you support me as a person). Don't let this bother you though, the money goes towards keeping swfchan free of ads and to ensure that swfchan stays online.

During this "beta phase" (afterwards too naturally) I'd like to hear your opinions on this from every angle so that everything looks good when it's announced for everybody on the site. The plan is to simply put the Patreon logo to the right of the swfchan logo when the time is right, that way nobody can miss it. It'll link to http://swfchan.com/patreon.shtml

B - Yeah sorry, I did not want to appear more rude than what you would expect from, let's say, an anonymous imageboard inhabited only by furrys and trolls.
Just seeing that practically the 1st comment was
>Hurrr breeding season makes money off patreon and that's wroong, so patreon is a baaad thing
all.my.haet
why not change the fact that only jerks get money off patreon - is what would come to my mind, but because of that shitty flash game, nobody thinks of that?
Seems like a very prosperic logic to me (SARCASM WARNING)

To be clear, I do plan to support swfchan on patreon, but clearly not because of the board, rather the valuable services and archive SWFAnts has provided for free over the years.
I mean, just think of /f/ without any archive. That clearly deserves some compensation.

Just look at the last update, that shit is despicable and outrageous. Of course it is going to make people thinking ill of Patreon.

>>22632
Thanks mate, you're number one!

>>22639
Just to be clear, >>22633 isn't me. I would never call someone a "dumb fuck", especially in a thread where I'm asking for favor. If I did do that (which I never would) I certainly wouldn't do it under an alternative identity just a couple of hours after my first post. I might have to recreate this thread later since things have already gotten so out of hand.

I understand that Patreon is a touchy subject and that not all people approve of it but surely it's better than popups? There has been so many problems and complaints with the ads, people have been asking for an alternative way to support the site other than unblocking the ads. Just trying to provide that alternative and I don't think my Patreon profile will ever reach levels of "too much" either.

Oh, And of course you are not >>22633 That flashy Admin logo is rather obvious ^^

>>22644
>Hurrr breeding season makes money off patreon and that's wroong, so patreon is a baaad thing
You didn't get my point at all...

Patreon as a whole is fairly cancerous. But, if it's what it will take to keep this website up, go for it. Just hope they don't selectively enforce their ToS against you, like they did with 8chan.

Wow the site is really slow right now, even I got a double post because of it. The server is having some major issues with its Internet connection. It was slow yesterday too, needs to be fixed ASAP.

Edit 2: Fixed, site is back to normal.

Straying off topic, I found this gem while looking for info:
http://pastie.org/9793622
> While we understand your commitment to free speech, we will not allow 8chan to continue using Patreon, as several boards facilitate the distribution of harmful content and activity, such as illustrated child exploitation imagery. Other violations include facilitating the promotion and/or encouragement to commit self harm, and facilitating the promotion and/or encouragement of pedophilia practices. While we are aware that illustrated child exploitation imagery is not illegal in the United States, we take a strict stance, regardless of the law, on the usage of Patreon to fund or facilitate its distribution.

Which is complete and utter bullshit:
patreon.com/posts/2987174
patreon.com/posts/2-2445879
patreon.com/posts/1831838
patreon.com/posts/2018176
encyclopediadramatica.se/File:Patrecrap2.png
encyclopediadramatica.se/File:Patreaonporn.jpg
patreon.com/sadinsfwgames
patreon.com/PururinDRHMAL

derpiboo.ru, $519.06/mo: https://derpicdn.net/img/2015/8/27/966655/full.pn g
smudgeproof, $332/mo: https://www.dropbox.com/s/9uvlbxpnszo9x6s/hole.pn g?dl=0
sketchman, $229/mo: https://omorashi.org/gallery/image/16544-kara-and -jodie-from-abdl-game-lafwirm/
Mental Crash, $96/mo: https://www.patreon.com/posts/little-chizuru-2736 003
Areg5, $52/mo: http://www.ararchive.com/gallery3/index.php/areg5 /My-Date-with-Emily?page=9
925999, $46/mo: http://merunyaa.deviantart.com/art/Commission-25- Babyfur-547829181

I hope nobody is using "this patreon is doomed" bullshit to have an excuse to not participate. I don't really have much money, and this is the first Patreon I ever paid. I'm sure even going for the 1USD is enough if a few people start being patrons.

>>22786
Since it's only been announced on .org so far I won't despair just yet, 63% of swfchan's visitors only touch the .com and .net domains. Most that visit .org only check out /fap/ directly via the navigation links at the top and won't see any threads on /disc/, a rough guess is that less than 10% of the site's visitors know about this beta phase of Patreon. So it's not game over just yet.

I guess we're only still here because we're small.

Got the idea from the long list of donors to Dwarf Fortress:
http://www.bay12games.com/champions.html

On swfchan's list you would get to decide your own name, location, text color and set a quote to be placed next to an image that you upload to /res/. Anything goes as long as it's within reason and as long as it isn't an advertisement or promotion in any way. Probably should limit the text and images to not be "shocking" (porn/gore) since people might not be interested in being on such a page otherwise. Not that I expect anyone to actually use their real name but still, it would make the list more fun to scroll through for everybody.

People would remain on this list even if they stopped supporting swfchan one day.

Have figured out a decent way of automating rewards so I will probably make a simple 1 USD/month tier which will look like this:
+ No ads on flash.asp while signed in.
+ Optional auto-skip feature.

Holding off on the wall of fame for now but I haven't abandoned that idea.

And while I'm not bothered at all that you have my real data, It's really a good idea to have this clearly stated on the patreon page.

>stop liking what I don't like

Breeding season is ugly af, but if somebody else pays for it then that's their own business.

People just pirated it anyway, then there's this huge moral stink over how Adobe deserved $1000 for every little kid who fools around with playshapes. The new engines are free-to-start like a modern MMORPG or MOBA; pay if you're in love with it. No more monopolies, no more being at Adobe's mercy for comparability, no more using 99% of an eight-core CPU because the dev has no clue how to design a game. (Flash made it way too easy to do that without realizing, and teenage devs usually don't realize.)

That is literally the worst possible thing you can do, anon.

I heard /pol/ conducted a raid on them and cause massive PTSD and two suicides.

Out of curiosity, what's the bandwidth cost for Swfchan on average? It would help to list that on the Patreon so people know what you need to keep the lights on without ads.

Like how many dollars for each visitors (I know most of them don't give money)?

So all this is about some Swedish cuck trying to get rich to pay his immigrant friends to fuck his wife?

Shameful, money should never be ones motivation to do anything.
Unfortunate such a good place is held hostage by such cancer.

Most people probably can't argue that this is "unfair" or "dishonest" and still keep a straight face. I don't expect anything from my visitors --as long as folks still find swfchan worth coming to I'm happy-- but it would be dumb of me to not jump on this opportunity to maybe exchange the bad ads for donors that want to help, especially when some people have been specifically asking for it.

The system that creates supporter accounts is now ready, please check patreon.shtml for instructions on how to activate your account so I can make sure everything works the way it should and that the instructions are straightforward enough.

Everything is as ready as it'll ever be, it's time to end the "beta testing" period and see for real if people are willing to donate to the site via Patreon. Thanks to you three that have showed your support so far, even if nobody else is interested I will at least know that 3 out of 25k really like the site. :)

I'll make the global announcement within 24 hours.